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Post by Total Victory of Christ (unofficial)Why are Jesus' enemies put at his feet?
http://youtu.be/EkMwoJEsyx4
The early church fathers had a very different view of this event, the enemies of Christ being
brought to his feet. They saw this event, in the age of ages, as reconciliation, a conquest of...
Regarding this video, I would like to
offer a point, counterpoint.
Point 1: Christ must rule until all
enemies are under His feet (1
Corinthians 15:25)
The Total Victory of Christ: Christ will
reign until all enemies are brought
under His feet, which is understood as a
gradual process of reconciliation. This
implies that eventually, even those who
opposed Christ will be reconciled to Him
and restored.
Counterpoint: While Christ will subdue
all His enemies (1 Corinthians 15:25),
Scripture distinguishes between
subjugation and salvation. Being under
Christ’s feet refers to defeat and
judgment, not reconciliation. Matthew
25:46 makes clear that there are two
eternal destinies—eternal life for the
righteous and eternal punishment for the
wicked. Romans 14:11 shows that while
every knee will bow, not everyone will
be saved, as some will bow in forced
acknowledgment of Christ's lordship
rather than in reconciliation.
Point 2: Revelation’s depiction of the
lake of fire as purification (Revelation
20:10, 14-15)
The Total Victory of Christ: The lake of
fire mentioned in Revelation is seen as
a purifying fire, not a place of eternal
torment. It is interpreted as a refining
process that eliminates impurities and
eventually restores all to Christ.
Counterpoint: Revelation 20:10 clearly
states that the lake of fire is a place
of eternal torment, not purification.
The text describes the devil, the beast,
and the false prophet being tormented
"day and night forever and ever."
Revelation 21:8 further confirms that
the lake of fire is the second death,
reserved for those who remain
unrepentant, indicating eternal
punishment, not reconciliation.
Point 3: God is love (1 John 4:8)
The Total Victory of Christ: Since God
is love, He would not torment people for
eternity. His love leads to
transformation and reconciliation, not
eternal punishment, as eternal suffering
would contradict God's loving nature.
Counterpoint: God, in His love, mercy,
and grace, offered His Son as a
propitiating, substitutionary atonement
for our sins. This is the only way a
just God can remain just while forgiving
sins (Romans 3:23-26). If people reject
God's love, mercy, and grace in Christ,
there remains no other sacrifice for
their sins that a just God can accept
(Hebrews 10:26-27). God's justice,
combined with His holiness, demands
eternal punishment for those who reject
His offer of salvation. Jesus spoke
clearly about eternal punishment in
Matthew 25:46, showing that God's
justice includes everlasting separation
for the unrepentant, which does not
contradict His loving nature but rather
upholds His holiness and justice.
Point 4: God's patience (2 Peter 3:9)
The Total Victory of Christ: God’s
patience indicates that He desires to
bring everyone to repentance over time.
His love is patient, and He will
eventually reconcile all people to
Himself, taking as long as necessary to
do so.
Counterpoint: While God’s patience is
real, 2 Peter 3:9 states that His desire
is for all to come to repentance.
However, this same passage warns that
judgment will come (2 Peter 3:10).
Scripture is clear that not all will
repent, as Jesus warned in Matthew
7:13-14 that many will enter through the
wide gate leading to destruction. God's
patience provides time for repentance,
but it does not guarantee that all will
repent.
Point 5: All shall bow before Christ
(Philippians 2:10-11)
The Total Victory of Christ: The fact
that every knee will bow and every
tongue confess that Jesus is Lord means
that all people, including those who
opposed Him, will ultimately be
reconciled to God.
Counterpoint: Philippians 2:10-11
teaches that every knee will bow and
every tongue confess that Jesus Christ
is Lord, but this does not imply
universal salvation. Scripture presents
this as the inevitable acknowledgment of
Christ’s lordship by all, including
those who will still face judgment
(Romans 14:11-12). Bowing before Christ
is not necessarily a sign of
reconciliation but of submission to His
authority, which may occur under judgment.
Point 6: God will be all in all (1
Corinthians 15:28)
The Total Victory of Christ: The
statement that God will be "all in all"
is interpreted to mean that all
creation, including every person, will
eventually be reconciled to God, as He
will restore all things in the end.
Counterpoint: 1 Corinthians 15:28 speaks
of God’s ultimate reign, but it does not
suggest universal reconciliation. The
context of this passage deals with the
final subjection of all powers to
Christ. While Christ will deliver the
kingdom to the Father, the judgment of
the unrighteous remains clear (Matthew
25:46). God's being "all in all" refers
to His complete dominion, not the
salvation of all individuals.
Point 7: The destruction of death (1
Corinthians 15:26)
The Total Victory of Christ: The
destruction of death, the last enemy, is
seen as the final victory of Christ,
implying that all of humanity will be
freed from death and brought into
reconciliation with God.
Counterpoint: The destruction of death
(1 Corinthians 15:26) refers to the
ultimate victory of Christ over physical
and spiritual death. However, this
victory applies only to those who are in
Christ, as believers are promised
resurrection and eternal life (1
Corinthians 15:54-57). The Bible
distinguishes between eternal life for
the saved and eternal punishment for the
lost (Matthew 25:46), indicating that
the destruction of death does not mean
universal reconciliation.
Point 8: Christ’s mission to rescue all
mankind (1 Timothy 2:4)
The Total Victory of Christ: Christ came
to rescue all of humanity, and because
of His omnipotence, He will eventually
reconcile every person to Himself,
ensuring total victory over sin and death.
Counterpoint: 1 Timothy 2:4 expresses
God's desire for all to be saved, but
Scripture consistently teaches that not
all will respond to the gospel. Jesus'
words in Matthew 7:13-14 emphasize that
only a few will find the narrow path to
life, while many will enter through the
wide gate leading to destruction. While
God desires all to be saved, human
response to the gospel is necessary, and
many will reject salvation.
Point 9: The refining fire of God
(Malachi 3:2-3)
The Total Victory of Christ: The
refining fire of God is seen as
purifying, not punitive. Just as gold is
refined in fire, all people will be
purified by God’s judgments and
ultimately reconciled to Him.
Counterpoint: While God’s judgment is
described as refining in some contexts
(Malachi 3:2-3), the lake of fire in
Revelation is depicted as eternal
punishment for the unrepentant
(Revelation 20:10, 15). The concept of
refining applies to believers being made
holy, but for the unrepentant, Scripture
teaches eternal separation from God. The
fire of judgment in this case is
punitive, not purifying, as seen in
passages like Matthew 25:41.
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Have you heard the good news Christ died
for our sins (†), and God raised Him
from the dead?
That Christ died for our sins shows
we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the
dead shows Christ's death satisfied
God's righteous demands against our sin
(Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
God can now remain just, while forgiving
you of your sins, and saving you from
eternal damnation.
On the basis of Christ's death and
resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you:
"For "everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved."" (Romans
10:13, ESV)
https://christrose.news/salvation
