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WHY the Trinity doctrine is FALSE
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One God
2024-04-23 14:30:06 UTC
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Trinitarian and demigod or fully-god, fully-man worshipers cannot escape this conundrum.

<quote>

There is only one true God.
(Deuteronomy 6:4 ; John 17:3)

The one and only God is the God of Jesus.
(John 17:3 ;

The God of Jesus is not a 3 person god.

Therefore, the trinity is another god, a god which is not his God.

If you are a trinitarian, you have a god which Jesus did not.

And you have another god which is not the God of Jesus.

Trinitarians have no escape from this problem but to run
and hide from it and to flee from the truth instead of
face it honestly. Straight forward simple facts demand
acknowledgment of the obvious truth. Those who love the
truth know what to do. The only true God is the God and
Father of our Lord Jesus Christ and there is no other.
And concerning those who do not love the truth, we also
know what they will do. Men everywhere love their man-made
idols much more than the true God, the God of our Lord.
This is the way of deluded defiant men, those who deny and
defy the truth of God. How about you? What will you do?

WHY the Trinity doctrine is FALSE


</quote>

Trinitarians worship an idol that Jesus knows not.

Early Christians turned from the trinity idols of the pagans to worship the true God:

"For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God ..." (1 Thessalonians 1:9)

Later Christians rejected the true God and turned to the trinity idols. Christians accepted the worship of Tammuz, also known as Jupiter, Apollo, Mithras, Hermes, Perseus, Zeus, etc. which is a god-man that sired himself with a human woman. These are the very idols that the first-century Christians turned from in 1 Thessalonians 1:9.

The false gods being preached in these newsgroups are damnable idols.

The false Jesus being preached in these newsgroups is a damnable idol.

God is a spirit. God is not a man. God is not, "fully man and fully god."

God is only fully God, and nothing else. Never at any time did he ever become a man. He sent a man and raised that man from the dead. That man is Jesus Christ, the Son of God. All who claim that Jesus is God the Father or part of some trinity are liars and idolators.

Only Jehovah is God Almighty. There is no other.
tesla sTinker ofm minim
2024-04-27 18:11:44 UTC
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"1 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 2 Behold, I have called by name
Beseleel the son of Uri the son of Hur of the tribe of Juda, 3 And I
have filled him with the spirit of God, with wisdom and understanding,
and knowledge in all manner of work. "

SEE it says, in all manner of work,, The spirit of God. OK< that is
one....

God the Father is 2
God the Son, is 3

bye ass hole
Post by One God
Trinitarian and demigod or fully-god, fully-man worshipers cannot escape this conundrum.
<quote>
There is only one true God.
(Deuteronomy 6:4 ; John 17:3)
The one and only God is the God of Jesus.
(John 17:3 ;
The God of Jesus is not a 3 person god.
Therefore, the trinity is another god, a god which is not his God.
If you are a trinitarian, you have a god which Jesus did not.
And you have another god which is not the God of Jesus.
Trinitarians have no escape from this problem but to run
and hide from it and to flee from the truth instead of
face it honestly. Straight forward simple facts demand
acknowledgment of the obvious truth. Those who love the
truth know what to do. The only true God is the God and
Father of our Lord Jesus Christ and there is no other.
And concerning those who do not love the truth, we also
know what they will do. Men everywhere love their man-made
idols much more than the true God, the God of our Lord.
This is the way of deluded defiant men, those who deny and
defy the truth of God. How about you? What will you do?
WHY the Trinity doctrine is FALSE
http://youtu.be/BGYSzqW69IY
</quote>
Trinitarians worship an idol that Jesus knows not.
"For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God ..." (1 Thessalonians 1:9)
Later Christians rejected the true God and turned to the trinity idols. Christians accepted the worship of Tammuz, also known as Jupiter, Apollo, Mithras, Hermes, Perseus, Zeus, etc. which is a god-man that sired himself with a human woman. These are the very idols that the first-century Christians turned from in 1 Thessalonians 1:9.
The false gods being preached in these newsgroups are damnable idols.
The false Jesus being preached in these newsgroups is a damnable idol.
God is a spirit. God is not a man. God is not, "fully man and fully god."
God is only fully God, and nothing else. Never at any time did he ever become a man. He sent a man and raised that man from the dead. That man is Jesus Christ, the Son of God. All who claim that Jesus is God the Father or part of some trinity are liars and idolators.
Only Jehovah is God Almighty. There is no other.
! PLONK !
2024-04-27 19:40:25 UTC
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On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:11:44 -0700
Post by tesla sTinker ofm minim
bye ass hole
<plonk>

Warning - Beware of Trolls on Usenet

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The moment you see a troll or mentally ill stalker say something crazy, cruel, or insulting, add them to your news reader filters so that you will no longer see messages from them. Never respond to such sick persons as any response only fuels their stalker rage.

Never respond to a troll. Some of the trolls here are extremely mentally ill and highly aggressive. They will take your response as an invitation, like vampires do.

Certain sick persons say the same thing over and over again. These are the worst kind of trolls. Their intention is to weary you from repeated exposure to nonsense, abuse, and whataboutery, driving you away from Usenet. Don't let them drive you away. Add them to your killfile filters.

If a response seems, 'a little off' this is usually a troll trying to set you up for abuse. If the response is even a 'little off' immediately block the troll and do not respond.

Another kind of troll repeatedly 'quote replies' to other trolls, to get the troll articles past your killfile filters. When you notice someone repeatedly quoting trolls and responding to them, either he is a mentally sick individual, or he is just another sockpuppet for the same troll. Sometimes you can identify the repeater trolls by the fact that they rarely if ever trim or snip replies in a thread. They re-post endless walls of word salad quote replies with the full chain of useless troll text growing in every new post. They know that you must scroll through a long message just to find their nonsense, wasting your valuable time. Block that profile as well.

The troll is not interested in your point of view. The troll is not interested in being corrected even when he is clearly wrong. He is only interested in annoying, distracting, and harassing you to waste your time and prevent useful communication that could bring people together. The troll hates that and wants to destroy it in the cradle. Trolls have a dark triad personality with narcissistic arrogance that is indescribably vast. You can not reason with them. They only want to destroy your peace.

Once you stop seeing troll posts and quote replies to trolls, you have probably got most of the trolls blocked in your filters. Remain vigilant. If someone is saying things, 'a little off' that is the red flag to add that person to your killfile.

Real discussion has depth and / or purpose. If there is neither depth nor purpose in a post or response, it is almost assuredly a mentally deranged person who should be added to your killfile. People who are not mentally sick have something useful to discuss. If it isn't useful, it's probably the subtle tactics of a troll. You know what to do. Never give such monsters the time of day.
Michael Christ
2024-04-27 22:56:44 UTC
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Post by ! PLONK !
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:11:44 -0700
Post by tesla sTinker ofm minim
bye ass hole
<plonk>
Warning - Beware of Trolls on Usenet
The open and uncensored nature of Usenet draws trolls and mentally ill persons whose sole aim is to disrupt peaceful enjoyment of
the network. Such deranged people are drawn to Usenet to exploit its open nature as an opportunity to harass and abuse other people. They do this because there is no centralized way to hold them accountable or punish them for their bad behavior. You must take the initiative to punish them for their bad behavior by blocking them in your own newsreader software. These guidelines for identifying trolls will help you to create and maintain a positive experience free of the weirdness and disruption caused by Usenet trolls.
The moment you see a troll or mentally ill stalker say something crazy, cruel, or insulting, add them to your news reader filters so that you will no longer see messages from them. Never respond to such sick persons as any response only fuels their stalker rage.
Never respond to a troll. Some of the trolls here are extremely mentally ill and highly aggressive. They will take your response as an invitation, like vampires do.
Certain sick persons say the same thing over and over again. These are the worst kind of trolls. Their intention is to weary you from repeated exposure to nonsense, abuse, and whataboutery, driving you away from Usenet. Don't let them drive you away. Add them to your killfile filters.
If a response seems, 'a little off' this is usually a troll trying to set you up for abuse. If the response is even a 'little off' immediately block the troll and do not respond.
Another kind of troll repeatedly 'quote replies' to other trolls, to get the troll articles past your killfile filters. When you notice someone repeatedly quoting trolls and responding to them, either he is a mentally sick individual, or he is just another sockpuppet for the same troll. Sometimes you can identify the repeater trolls by the fact that they rarely if ever trim or snip replies in a thread. They re-post endless walls of word salad quote replies with the full chain of useless troll text growing in every new post. They know that you must scroll through a long message just to find their nonsense, wasting your valuable time. Block that profile as well.
The troll is not interested in your point of view. The troll is not interested in being corrected even when he is clearly wrong. He is only interested in annoying, distracting, and harassing you to waste your time and prevent useful communication that could bring people together. The troll hates that and wants to destroy it in the cradle. Trolls have a dark triad personality with narcissistic arrogance that is indescribably vast. You can not reason with them. They only want to destroy your peace.
Once you stop seeing troll posts and quote replies to trolls, you have probably got most of the trolls blocked in your filters. Remain vigilant. If someone is saying things, 'a little off' that is the red flag to add that person to your killfile.
Real discussion has depth and / or purpose. If there is neither depth nor purpose in a post or response, it is almost assuredly a mentally deranged person who should be added to your killfile. People who are not mentally sick have something useful to discuss. If it isn't useful, it's probably the subtle tactics of a troll. You know what to do. Never give such monsters the time of day.
And so, you know all about all that is going on.

What more do you want?

You are now replete.



Michael Christ
--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."
tesla sTinker ofm minim
2024-04-28 17:13:21 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
Post by ! PLONK !
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:11:44 -0700
Post by tesla sTinker ofm minim
bye ass hole
<plonk>
Warning - Beware of Trolls on Usenet
The open and uncensored nature of Usenet draws trolls and mentally ill
persons whose sole aim is to disrupt peaceful enjoyment of
the network. Such deranged people are drawn to Usenet to exploit its
open nature as an opportunity to harass and abuse other people. They
do this because there is no centralized way to hold them accountable
or punish them for their bad behavior. You must take the initiative to
punish them for their bad behavior by blocking them in your own
newsreader software. These guidelines for identifying trolls will help
you to create and maintain a positive experience free of the weirdness
and disruption caused by Usenet trolls.
The moment you see a troll or mentally ill stalker say something
crazy, cruel, or insulting, add them to your news reader filters so
that you will no longer see messages from them. Never respond to such
sick persons as any response only fuels their stalker rage.
Never respond to a troll. Some of the trolls here are extremely
mentally ill and highly aggressive. They will take your response as an
invitation, like vampires do.
Certain sick persons say the same thing over and over again. These are
the worst kind of trolls. Their intention is to weary you from
repeated exposure to nonsense, abuse, and whataboutery, driving you
away from Usenet. Don't let them drive you away. Add them to your
killfile filters.
If a response seems, 'a little off' this is usually a troll trying to
set you up for abuse. If the response is even a 'little off'
immediately block the troll and do not respond.
Another kind of troll repeatedly 'quote replies' to other trolls, to
get the troll articles past your killfile filters. When you notice
someone repeatedly quoting trolls and responding to them, either he is
a mentally sick individual, or he is just another sockpuppet for the
same troll. Sometimes you can identify the repeater trolls by the fact
that they rarely if ever trim or snip replies in a thread. They
re-post endless walls of word salad quote replies with the full chain
of useless troll text growing in every new post. They know that you
must scroll through a long message just to find their nonsense,
wasting your valuable time. Block that profile as well.
The troll is not interested in your point of view. The troll is not
interested in being corrected even when he is clearly wrong. He is
only interested in annoying, distracting, and harassing you to waste
your time and prevent useful communication that could bring people
together. The troll hates that and wants to destroy it in the cradle.
Trolls have a dark triad personality with narcissistic arrogance that
is indescribably vast. You can not reason with them. They only want to
destroy your peace.
Once you stop seeing troll posts and quote replies to trolls, you have
probably got most of the trolls blocked in your filters. Remain
vigilant. If someone is saying things, 'a little off' that is the red
flag to add that person to your killfile.
Real discussion has depth and / or purpose. If there is neither depth
nor purpose in a post or response, it is almost assuredly a mentally
deranged person who should be added to your killfile. People who are
not mentally sick have something useful to discuss. If it isn't
useful, it's probably the subtle tactics of a troll. You know what to
do. Never give such monsters the time of day.
And so, you know all about all that is going on.
What more do you want?
You are now replete.
Michael Christ
he dont know a dam thing just like you.

tesla sTinker ofm minim
2024-04-28 17:11:39 UTC
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We will always respect the only one religion and exterminate
all you pagans who lie through your teeth full of disrespect and sin.
Hating God. Go to hell jack ass no namer
Post by ! PLONK !
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:11:44 -0700
Post by tesla sTinker ofm minim
bye ass hole
<plonk>
Warning - Beware of Trolls on Usenet
The open and uncensored nature of Usenet draws trolls and mentally ill persons whose sole aim is to disrupt peaceful enjoyment of
the network. Such deranged people are drawn to Usenet to exploit its open nature as an opportunity to harass and abuse other people. They do this because there is no centralized way to hold them accountable or punish them for their bad behavior. You must take the initiative to punish them for their bad behavior by blocking them in your own newsreader software. These guidelines for identifying trolls will help you to create and maintain a positive experience free of the weirdness and disruption caused by Usenet trolls.
The moment you see a troll or mentally ill stalker say something crazy, cruel, or insulting, add them to your news reader filters so that you will no longer see messages from them. Never respond to such sick persons as any response only fuels their stalker rage.
Never respond to a troll. Some of the trolls here are extremely mentally ill and highly aggressive. They will take your response as an invitation, like vampires do.
Certain sick persons say the same thing over and over again. These are the worst kind of trolls. Their intention is to weary you from repeated exposure to nonsense, abuse, and whataboutery, driving you away from Usenet. Don't let them drive you away. Add them to your killfile filters.
If a response seems, 'a little off' this is usually a troll trying to set you up for abuse. If the response is even a 'little off' immediately block the troll and do not respond.
Another kind of troll repeatedly 'quote replies' to other trolls, to get the troll articles past your killfile filters. When you notice someone repeatedly quoting trolls and responding to them, either he is a mentally sick individual, or he is just another sockpuppet for the same troll. Sometimes you can identify the repeater trolls by the fact that they rarely if ever trim or snip replies in a thread. They re-post endless walls of word salad quote replies with the full chain of useless troll text growing in every new post. They know that you must scroll through a long message just to find their nonsense, wasting your valuable time. Block that profile as well.
The troll is not interested in your point of view. The troll is not interested in being corrected even when he is clearly wrong. He is only interested in annoying, distracting, and harassing you to waste your time and prevent useful communication that could bring people together. The troll hates that and wants to destroy it in the cradle. Trolls have a dark triad personality with narcissistic arrogance that is indescribably vast. You can not reason with them. They only want to destroy your peace.
Once you stop seeing troll posts and quote replies to trolls, you have probably got most of the trolls blocked in your filters. Remain vigilant. If someone is saying things, 'a little off' that is the red flag to add that person to your killfile.
Real discussion has depth and / or purpose. If there is neither depth nor purpose in a post or response, it is almost assuredly a mentally deranged person who should be added to your killfile. People who are not mentally sick have something useful to discuss. If it isn't useful, it's probably the subtle tactics of a troll. You know what to do. Never give such monsters the time of day.
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