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DID MUHAMMAD EVER MEET JESUS?
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arah
2007-11-11 02:41:15 UTC
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Volume 4, Book 54, Number 429:
Narrated Malik bin Sasaa:

The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying
between two men. A golden tray full of wisdom and belief was brought
to me and my body was cut open from the throat to the lower part of
the abdomen and then my abdomen was washed with Zam-zam water and (my
heart was) filled with wisdom and belief. Al-Buraq, a white animal,
smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me and I
set out with Gabriel.

When I reached the nearest heaven. Gabriel said to the heaven gate-
keeper, 'Open the gate.' The gatekeeper asked, 'Who is it?' He said,
'Gabriel.' The gate-keeper,' Who is accompanying you?' Gabriel said,
'Muhammad.' The gate-keeper said, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel said,
'Yes.' Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his
is!' Then I met Adam and greeted him and he said, 'You are welcomed O
son and a Prophet.'

Then we ascended to the second heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?'
Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was said, 'Who is with you?' He said,
'Muhammad' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' He said, 'Yes.' It
was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!" Then I met
Jesus and Yahya (John) who said, 'You are welcomed, O brother and a
Prophet.'

Then we ascended to the third heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?'
Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is with you? Gabriel said,
'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' 'Yes,' said Gabriel.
'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' (The Prophet added:).
There I met Joseph and greeted him, and he replied, 'You are welcomed,
O brother and a Prophet!'

Then we ascended to the 4th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met Idris
and greeted him. He said, 'You are welcomed O brother and Prophet.'

Then we ascended to the 5th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in previous heavens. there I met and greeted
Aaron who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and a Prophet".

Then we ascended to the 6th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and
greeted Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.'
When I proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was
weeping, he said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after
me will enter Paradise in greater number than my followers.'

Then we ascended to the seventh heaven and again the same questions
and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and
greeted Abraham who said, 'You are welcomed o son and a Prophet.' Then
I was shown Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur (i.e. Allah's House). I asked Gabriel
about it and he said, This is Al Bait-ul-Ma'mur where 70,000 angels
perform prayers daily and when they leave they never return to it (but
always a fresh batch comes into it daily).' Then I was shown Sidrat-ul-
Muntaha (i.e. a tree in the seventh heaven) and I saw its Nabk fruits
which resembled the clay jugs of Hajr (i.e. a town in Arabia), and its
leaves were like the ears of elephants, and four rivers originated at
its root, two of them were apparent and two were hidden. I asked
Gabriel about those rivers and he said, 'The two hidden rivers are in
Paradise, and the apparent ones are the Nile and the Euphrates.'

Then fifty prayers were enjoined on me. I descended till I met Moses
who asked me, 'What have you done?' I said, 'Fifty prayers have been
enjoined on me.' He said, 'I know the people better than you, because
I had the hardest experience to bring Bani Israel to obedience. Your
followers cannot put up with such obligation. So, return to your Lord
and request Him (to reduce the number of prayers.' I returned and
requested Allah (for reduction) and He made it forty. I returned and
(met Moses) and had a similar discussion, and then returned again to
Allah for reduction and He made it thirty, then twenty, then ten, and
then I came to Moses who repeated the same advice. Ultimately Allah
reduced it to five. When I came to Moses again, he said, 'What have
you done?' I said, 'Allah has made it five only.' He repeated the same
advice but I said that I surrendered (to Allah's Final Order)'"
Allah's Apostle was addressed by Allah, "I have decreed My Obligation
and have reduced the burden on My slaves, and I shall reward a single
good deed as if it were ten good deeds."


The is only One Almighty God, the Creator, the God of All Mankind, God
of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad
Bill M
2007-11-11 16:27:30 UTC
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Just more religious NONSENSE!
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying
between two men. A golden tray full of wisdom and belief was brought
to me and my body was cut open from the throat to the lower part of
the abdomen and then my abdomen was washed with Zam-zam water and (my
heart was) filled with wisdom and belief. Al-Buraq, a white animal,
smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me and I
set out with Gabriel.
When I reached the nearest heaven. Gabriel said to the heaven gate-
keeper, 'Open the gate.' The gatekeeper asked, 'Who is it?' He said,
'Gabriel.' The gate-keeper,' Who is accompanying you?' Gabriel said,
'Muhammad.' The gate-keeper said, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel said,
'Yes.' Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his
is!' Then I met Adam and greeted him and he said, 'You are welcomed O
son and a Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the second heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?'
Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was said, 'Who is with you?' He said,
'Muhammad' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' He said, 'Yes.' It
was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!" Then I met
Jesus and Yahya (John) who said, 'You are welcomed, O brother and a
Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the third heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?'
Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is with you? Gabriel said,
'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' 'Yes,' said Gabriel.
'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' (The Prophet added:).
There I met Joseph and greeted him, and he replied, 'You are welcomed,
O brother and a Prophet!'
Then we ascended to the 4th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met Idris
and greeted him. He said, 'You are welcomed O brother and Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the 5th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in previous heavens. there I met and greeted
Aaron who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and a Prophet".
Then we ascended to the 6th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and
greeted Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.'
When I proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was
weeping, he said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after
me will enter Paradise in greater number than my followers.'
Then we ascended to the seventh heaven and again the same questions
and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and
greeted Abraham who said, 'You are welcomed o son and a Prophet.' Then
I was shown Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur (i.e. Allah's House). I asked Gabriel
about it and he said, This is Al Bait-ul-Ma'mur where 70,000 angels
perform prayers daily and when they leave they never return to it (but
always a fresh batch comes into it daily).' Then I was shown Sidrat-ul-
Muntaha (i.e. a tree in the seventh heaven) and I saw its Nabk fruits
which resembled the clay jugs of Hajr (i.e. a town in Arabia), and its
leaves were like the ears of elephants, and four rivers originated at
its root, two of them were apparent and two were hidden. I asked
Gabriel about those rivers and he said, 'The two hidden rivers are in
Paradise, and the apparent ones are the Nile and the Euphrates.'
Then fifty prayers were enjoined on me. I descended till I met Moses
who asked me, 'What have you done?' I said, 'Fifty prayers have been
enjoined on me.' He said, 'I know the people better than you, because
I had the hardest experience to bring Bani Israel to obedience. Your
followers cannot put up with such obligation. So, return to your Lord
and request Him (to reduce the number of prayers.' I returned and
requested Allah (for reduction) and He made it forty. I returned and
(met Moses) and had a similar discussion, and then returned again to
Allah for reduction and He made it thirty, then twenty, then ten, and
then I came to Moses who repeated the same advice. Ultimately Allah
reduced it to five. When I came to Moses again, he said, 'What have
you done?' I said, 'Allah has made it five only.' He repeated the same
advice but I said that I surrendered (to Allah's Final Order)'"
Allah's Apostle was addressed by Allah, "I have decreed My Obligation
and have reduced the burden on My slaves, and I shall reward a single
good deed as if it were ten good deeds."
The is only One Almighty God, the Creator, the God of All Mankind, God
of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad
David Morgan (MAMS)
2007-11-12 06:52:12 UTC
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Top-posting corrected...........
Post by Bill M
Post by arah
The is only One Almighty God, the Creator, the God of All Mankind, God
of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad
Just more religious NONSENSE!
Why did I expect such keen mental descipline? Do all Christians suddenly
Deny that there is only One God ????
Raymond
2007-11-12 14:51:45 UTC
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Post by David Morgan (MAMS)
Top-posting corrected...........
Post by Bill M
Post by arah
The is only One Almighty God, the Creator, the God of All Mankind, God
of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad
Just more religious NONSENSE!
Why did I expect such keen mental descipline? Do all Christians suddenly
Deny that there is only One God ????
I suppose you mean "discipline" as "descipline" is not a real word in
English.

Why not, I also say I love my wife and children mentally every day,
and think about them often, we do not deny One God just because we
like such discipline.

NO Christian that lovers God would ever deny that God is ONE GOD. It
is nice to remember when folks like you like to get in the way and
mock God. I suppose some have to remember that God is the One in
charge, or you could have some problems that may not be nice, and more
like someone that does not believe in God would do. Be thankful that
Christians know God is in charge and not man.
Greg
2007-11-12 08:07:41 UTC
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The only time Mohammed will meet Christ is when Mohammed is finally judged
and sentenced to hell as the false prophet he has proven to be full of dead
religion and rotten murderous works.

Millions that have been killed or suffer because of mohammed, murdered or
raped in his name the toll rises daily.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire
and brimstone, where the beast and the FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be
tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Greg
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying
between two men. A golden tray full of wisdom and belief was brought
to me and my body was cut open from the throat to the lower part of
the abdomen and then my abdomen was washed with Zam-zam water and (my
heart was) filled with wisdom and belief. Al-Buraq, a white animal,
smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me and I
set out with Gabriel.
When I reached the nearest heaven. Gabriel said to the heaven gate-
keeper, 'Open the gate.' The gatekeeper asked, 'Who is it?' He said,
'Gabriel.' The gate-keeper,' Who is accompanying you?' Gabriel said,
'Muhammad.' The gate-keeper said, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel said,
'Yes.' Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his
is!' Then I met Adam and greeted him and he said, 'You are welcomed O
son and a Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the second heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?'
Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was said, 'Who is with you?' He said,
'Muhammad' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' He said, 'Yes.' It
was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!" Then I met
Jesus and Yahya (John) who said, 'You are welcomed, O brother and a
Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the third heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?'
Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is with you? Gabriel said,
'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' 'Yes,' said Gabriel.
'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' (The Prophet added:).
There I met Joseph and greeted him, and he replied, 'You are welcomed,
O brother and a Prophet!'
Then we ascended to the 4th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met Idris
and greeted him. He said, 'You are welcomed O brother and Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the 5th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in previous heavens. there I met and greeted
Aaron who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and a Prophet".
Then we ascended to the 6th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and
greeted Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.'
When I proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was
weeping, he said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after
me will enter Paradise in greater number than my followers.'
Then we ascended to the seventh heaven and again the same questions
and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and
greeted Abraham who said, 'You are welcomed o son and a Prophet.' Then
I was shown Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur (i.e. Allah's House). I asked Gabriel
about it and he said, This is Al Bait-ul-Ma'mur where 70,000 angels
perform prayers daily and when they leave they never return to it (but
always a fresh batch comes into it daily).' Then I was shown Sidrat-ul-
Muntaha (i.e. a tree in the seventh heaven) and I saw its Nabk fruits
which resembled the clay jugs of Hajr (i.e. a town in Arabia), and its
leaves were like the ears of elephants, and four rivers originated at
its root, two of them were apparent and two were hidden. I asked
Gabriel about those rivers and he said, 'The two hidden rivers are in
Paradise, and the apparent ones are the Nile and the Euphrates.'
Then fifty prayers were enjoined on me. I descended till I met Moses
who asked me, 'What have you done?' I said, 'Fifty prayers have been
enjoined on me.' He said, 'I know the people better than you, because
I had the hardest experience to bring Bani Israel to obedience. Your
followers cannot put up with such obligation. So, return to your Lord
and request Him (to reduce the number of prayers.' I returned and
requested Allah (for reduction) and He made it forty. I returned and
(met Moses) and had a similar discussion, and then returned again to
Allah for reduction and He made it thirty, then twenty, then ten, and
then I came to Moses who repeated the same advice. Ultimately Allah
reduced it to five. When I came to Moses again, he said, 'What have
you done?' I said, 'Allah has made it five only.' He repeated the same
advice but I said that I surrendered (to Allah's Final Order)'"
Allah's Apostle was addressed by Allah, "I have decreed My Obligation
and have reduced the burden on My slaves, and I shall reward a single
good deed as if it were ten good deeds."
The is only One Almighty God, the Creator, the God of All Mankind, God
of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad
David Morgan (MAMS)
2007-11-12 08:23:44 UTC
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Millions have been killed or suffer because of mohammed, murdered or
raped in his name the toll rises daily.
And that differs from Christianity and Catholicism in what way ???
Raymond
2007-11-12 15:01:31 UTC
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Post by David Morgan (MAMS)
Millions have been killed or suffer because of mohammed, murdered or
raped in his name the toll rises daily.
And that differs from Christianity and Catholicism in what way ???
One is a belief of many and the other is just one church group called
catholic.
Greg
2007-11-12 08:17:48 UTC
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Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two
men.

The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.

Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest
them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.

Sick stuff islam

Greg.




A golden tray full of wisdom and belief was brought
Post by arah
to me and my body was cut open from the throat to the lower part of
the abdomen and then my abdomen was washed with Zam-zam water and (my
heart was) filled with wisdom and belief. Al-Buraq, a white animal,
smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me and I
set out with Gabriel.
When I reached the nearest heaven. Gabriel said to the heaven gate-
keeper, 'Open the gate.' The gatekeeper asked, 'Who is it?' He said,
'Gabriel.' The gate-keeper,' Who is accompanying you?' Gabriel said,
'Muhammad.' The gate-keeper said, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel said,
'Yes.' Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his
is!' Then I met Adam and greeted him and he said, 'You are welcomed O
son and a Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the second heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?'
Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was said, 'Who is with you?' He said,
'Muhammad' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' He said, 'Yes.' It
was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!" Then I met
Jesus and Yahya (John) who said, 'You are welcomed, O brother and a
Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the third heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?'
Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is with you? Gabriel said,
'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' 'Yes,' said Gabriel.
'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' (The Prophet added:).
There I met Joseph and greeted him, and he replied, 'You are welcomed,
O brother and a Prophet!'
Then we ascended to the 4th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met Idris
and greeted him. He said, 'You are welcomed O brother and Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the 5th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in previous heavens. there I met and greeted
Aaron who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and a Prophet".
Then we ascended to the 6th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and
greeted Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.'
When I proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was
weeping, he said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after
me will enter Paradise in greater number than my followers.'
Then we ascended to the seventh heaven and again the same questions
and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and
greeted Abraham who said, 'You are welcomed o son and a Prophet.' Then
I was shown Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur (i.e. Allah's House). I asked Gabriel
about it and he said, This is Al Bait-ul-Ma'mur where 70,000 angels
perform prayers daily and when they leave they never return to it (but
always a fresh batch comes into it daily).' Then I was shown Sidrat-ul-
Muntaha (i.e. a tree in the seventh heaven) and I saw its Nabk fruits
which resembled the clay jugs of Hajr (i.e. a town in Arabia), and its
leaves were like the ears of elephants, and four rivers originated at
its root, two of them were apparent and two were hidden. I asked
Gabriel about those rivers and he said, 'The two hidden rivers are in
Paradise, and the apparent ones are the Nile and the Euphrates.'
Then fifty prayers were enjoined on me. I descended till I met Moses
who asked me, 'What have you done?' I said, 'Fifty prayers have been
enjoined on me.' He said, 'I know the people better than you, because
I had the hardest experience to bring Bani Israel to obedience. Your
followers cannot put up with such obligation. So, return to your Lord
and request Him (to reduce the number of prayers.' I returned and
requested Allah (for reduction) and He made it forty. I returned and
(met Moses) and had a similar discussion, and then returned again to
Allah for reduction and He made it thirty, then twenty, then ten, and
then I came to Moses who repeated the same advice. Ultimately Allah
reduced it to five. When I came to Moses again, he said, 'What have
you done?' I said, 'Allah has made it five only.' He repeated the same
advice but I said that I surrendered (to Allah's Final Order)'"
Allah's Apostle was addressed by Allah, "I have decreed My Obligation
and have reduced the burden on My slaves, and I shall reward a single
good deed as if it were ten good deeds."
The is only One Almighty God, the Creator, the God of All Mankind, God
of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad
N***@no.spam
2007-11-12 13:39:28 UTC
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:17:48 +1100, "Greg"
Post by Greg
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
How disgusting.
And they actually READ that garbage, then try to pass it off as
SCRIPTURE?
Post by Greg
Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest
them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.
Sick stuff islam
Greg.
Horrid.
Post by Greg
A golden tray full of wisdom and belief was brought
Post by arah
to me and my body was cut open from the throat to the lower part of
the abdomen and then my abdomen was washed with Zam-zam water and (my
heart was) filled with wisdom and belief.
And just what in the world is 'zam-zam water'??? The body 'cut open
from the throat to the lower part of the abdomen sure sounds like
islamism......

I saw a horrible video where an American soldier was tied up, lying on
the ground. The islamic CREEP rolled him over, stabbed him in the
throat, then cut his head completely off.
If that is what they call 'the religion of peace', I'll eat my socks.
John Fraser
2007-11-12 14:39:53 UTC
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Post by Greg
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Peter was awakened by an angel while asleep between two soldiers.

If you're serious about a discussion with Arah, why not talk to her with
dignity instead of insulting her and threatening her with hell fire? If
that's the best you can do, you have a weak witness.

Cheers,
John
Raymond
2007-11-12 15:10:46 UTC
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Post by John Fraser
Post by Greg
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Peter was awakened by an angel while asleep between two soldiers.
If you're serious about a discussion with Arah, why not talk to her with
dignity instead of insulting her and threatening her with hell fire? If
that's the best you can do, you have a weak witness.
It takes two to talk with dignity, and when one post in the way she
does, there is no dignity given, be like a murder with a gun that
wants to kill you, trying to talk her/him out of it, then such would
be a mental sickness, a need to kill and all the dignity will do not
good. It would only get a laugh from the one wanting to kill, in this
case wanting to make Christian deny Christ as saviour. As for Peter
he was tried up could not move on his own. Mohammad was lying with
two men, and I do not recall Peter having sex with some 11 year old.
I not sure if he liked boys or not, maybe she can give us a verse from
the Koran that will give some light on that statement.

Cheers,

Raymond
John Fraser
2007-11-12 22:31:00 UTC
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Good evening Raymond;
Post by Raymond
Post by John Fraser
Post by arah
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying
between
two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Peter was awakened by an angel while asleep between two soldiers.
If you're serious about a discussion with Arah, why not talk to her with
dignity instead of insulting her and threatening her with hell fire? If
that's the best you can do, you have a weak witness.
It takes two to talk with dignity, and when one post in the way she
does, there is no dignity given, be like a murder with a gun that
wants to kill you, trying to talk her/him out of it, then such would
be a mental sickness, a need to kill and all the dignity will do not
good. It would only get a laugh from the one wanting to kill, in this
case wanting to make Christian deny Christ as saviour. As for Peter
he was tried up could not move on his own. Mohammad was lying with
two men, and I do not recall Peter having sex with some 11 year old.
I not sure if he liked boys or not, maybe she can give us a verse from
the Koran that will give some light on that statement.
Cheers,
Raymond
Regarding the dignity, our old friend Mr. Winter used to quote a verse
from 1 Peter which stated that Jesus did not revile when reviled. I do
agree that Arah is here to test the faith of those who profess Christ. As
she quotes increasing more of the Qu'ran, she makes more clear why Muslims
disregard Jesus and ultimately doom themselves. On that point, we're all in
agreement. I agree that Peter was a bound prisoner at the mercy of sixteen
guards whereas Muhammad was voluntarily between his men. Regarding sex, it
seems that Muhummad could not get enough. As he grew older, he grew
increasingly perverted.

Cheers,
John
arah
2007-11-13 01:04:30 UTC
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Good Morning John Fraser

Please tell me how many wives that King Solomon have?

Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has, unluckly Jesus
is not even a King so he do not need to have any wives to expand his
empire.

Do you know who are the wives of Muhammad and who are they?

Cheers
Post by John Fraser
Good evening Raymond;
Post by Raymond
Post by John Fraser
Post by arah
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying
between
two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Peter was awakened by an angel while asleep between two soldiers.
If you're serious about a discussion with Arah, why not talk to her with
dignity instead of insulting her and threatening her with hell fire? If
that's the best you can do, you have a weak witness.
It takes two to talk with dignity, and when one post in the way she
does, there is no dignity given, be like a murder with a gun that
wants to kill you, trying to talk her/him out of it, then such would
be a mental sickness, a need to kill and all the dignity will do not
good. It would only get a laugh from the one wanting to kill, in this
case wanting to make Christian deny Christ as saviour. As for Peter
he was tried up could not move on his own. Mohammad was lying with
two men, and I do not recall Peter having sex with some 11 year old.
I not sure if he liked boys or not, maybe she can give us a verse from
the Koran that will give some light on that statement.
Cheers,
Raymond
Regarding the dignity, our old friend Mr. Winter used to quote a verse
from 1 Peter which stated that Jesus did not revile when reviled. I do
agree that Arah is here to test the faith of those who profess Christ. As
she quotes increasing more of the Qu'ran, she makes more clear why Muslims
disregard Jesus and ultimately doom themselves. On that point, we're all in
agreement. I agree that Peter was a bound prisoner at the mercy of sixteen
guards whereas Muhammad was voluntarily between his men. Regarding sex, it
seems that Muhummad could not get enough. As he grew older, he grew
increasingly perverted.
Cheers,
John- Hide quoted text -
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John Fraser
2007-11-13 01:56:25 UTC
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Good evening Arah;
Post by arah
Good Morning John Fraser
Please tell me how many wives that King Solomon have?
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has, unluckly Jesus
is not even a King so he do not need to have any wives to expand his
empire.
Do you know who are the wives of Muhammad and who are they?
Cheers
I'm glad you asked. In his dealings with foreign States, King Solomon
acquired a concubine of some 300 wives. God had intended a man to have only
one wife, and ideally for his lifetime. Because Solomon disobeyed this bit
of wisdom to further his own causes by marrying women who served gods other
than the God of the Israelites, he was distracted to the point of neglecting
the God of his forefathers and ultimately, his blessings.

Cheers,
John
Post by arah
Post by John Fraser
Good evening Raymond;
Post by Raymond
Post by John Fraser
Post by arah
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying
between
two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Peter was awakened by an angel while asleep between two soldiers.
If you're serious about a discussion with Arah, why not talk to
her
with
dignity instead of insulting her and threatening her with hell fire?
If
that's the best you can do, you have a weak witness.
It takes two to talk with dignity, and when one post in the way she
does, there is no dignity given, be like a murder with a gun that
wants to kill you, trying to talk her/him out of it, then such would
be a mental sickness, a need to kill and all the dignity will do not
good. It would only get a laugh from the one wanting to kill, in this
case wanting to make Christian deny Christ as saviour. As for Peter
he was tried up could not move on his own. Mohammad was lying with
two men, and I do not recall Peter having sex with some 11 year old.
I not sure if he liked boys or not, maybe she can give us a verse from
the Koran that will give some light on that statement.
Cheers,
Raymond
Regarding the dignity, our old friend Mr. Winter used to quote a verse
from 1 Peter which stated that Jesus did not revile when reviled. I do
agree that Arah is here to test the faith of those who profess Christ.
As
she quotes increasing more of the Qu'ran, she makes more clear why Muslims
disregard Jesus and ultimately doom themselves. On that point, we're all in
agreement. I agree that Peter was a bound prisoner at the mercy of sixteen
guards whereas Muhammad was voluntarily between his men. Regarding sex, it
seems that Muhummad could not get enough. As he grew older, he grew
increasingly perverted.
Cheers,
John- Hide quoted text -
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cub brave
2007-11-13 02:36:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Fraser
Good evening Arah;
Post by arah
Good Morning John Fraser
Please tell me how many wives that King Solomon have?
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has, unluckly Jesus
is not even a King so he do not need to have any wives to expand his
empire.
Do you know who are the wives of Muhammad and who are they?
Cheers
I'm glad you asked. In his dealings with foreign States, King Solomon
acquired a concubine of some 300 wives. God had intended a man to have only
one wife, and ideally for his lifetime. Because Solomon disobeyed this bit
of wisdom to further his own causes by marrying women who served gods other
than the God of the Israelites, he was distracted to the point of neglecting
the God of his forefathers and ultimately, his blessings.
Cheers,
John
Post by arah
Post by John Fraser
Good evening Raymond;
Post by Raymond
Post by John Fraser
Post by arah
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying
between
two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Peter was awakened by an angel while asleep between two soldiers.
If you're serious about a discussion with Arah, why not talk to
her
with
dignity instead of insulting her and threatening her with hell fire?
If
that's the best you can do, you have a weak witness.
It takes two to talk with dignity, and when one post in the way she
does, there is no dignity given, be like a murder with a gun that
wants to kill you, trying to talk her/him out of it, then such would
be a mental sickness, a need to kill and all the dignity will do not
good. It would only get a laugh from the one wanting to kill, in this
case wanting to make Christian deny Christ as saviour. As for Peter
he was tried up could not move on his own. Mohammad was lying with
two men, and I do not recall Peter having sex with some 11 year old.
I not sure if he liked boys or not, maybe she can give us a verse from
the Koran that will give some light on that statement.
Cheers,
Raymond
Regarding the dignity, our old friend Mr. Winter used to quote a verse
from 1 Peter which stated that Jesus did not revile when reviled. I do
agree that Arah is here to test the faith of those who profess Christ.
As
she quotes increasing more of the Qu'ran, she makes more clear why Muslims
disregard Jesus and ultimately doom themselves. On that point, we're all in
agreement. I agree that Peter was a bound prisoner at the mercy of sixteen
guards whereas Muhammad was voluntarily between his men. Regarding sex, it
seems that Muhummad could not get enough. As he grew older, he grew
increasingly perverted.
Cheers,
John- Hide quoted text -
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Oh, what a suprise, the "Wise old Owl" is sharing from his "wealth of
wisDUMB".


Why reason with a hellbound scumbag muslim that will bust hell wide
open, "Fraser"?

"Arah" is a filthy perverted scumbag devil that will no doubt spend
eternity gnashing his teeth and I will be in heaven watching a
laughing, and maybe turning the thermostat down there up a little bit.



Rot in hell, "Arah", you filthy perverted scumbag muslim devil.


Cub Brave
David Morgan (MAMS)
2007-11-13 02:55:39 UTC
Permalink
Why reason with a hellbound scumbag muslim...
Because of that complete anti-Christ actions of people like you.
Rot in hell, "Arah", you filthy perverted scumbag muslim devil.
Sicko.....................................
David Morgan (MAMS)
2007-11-13 02:37:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Fraser
he was distracted to the point of neglecting
the God of his forefathers and ultimately, his blessings.
So... you've talked to King Solomon and he told you that he had screwed up ?
N***@no.spam
2007-11-13 16:46:09 UTC
Permalink
Jesus is not even a King
WHOAH there, madam.
This is quite ENOUGH.

Again, you prove your antichrist nature, and unbelief, as well as
ignorance of our Lord, Jesus Christ.
The BIBLE disagrees with you:

Psa 24:8 Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the
LORD mighty in battle.

Psa 29:10 The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King
forever.

Psa 47:2 For the LORD most high is terrible; he is a great King over
all the earth.

Psa 47:7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with
understanding.

Psa 74:12 For God is my King of old, working salvation in the midst
of the earth.

Psa 89:18 For the LORD is our defense; and the Holy One of Israel is
our king.

Psa 95:3 For the LORD is a great God, and a great King above all
gods.

Psa 98:6 With trumpets and sound of cornet make a joyful noise before
the LORD, the King.

Mal 1:14 But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male,
and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing: for I am a
great King, saith the LORD of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the
heathen.

Luk 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior,
which is Christ the Lord.



This is NOT up for debate.
arah
2007-11-14 03:24:29 UTC
Permalink
I felt sorry to you Nos

Wow, you are very very confused. my dear

You can't understand the fundamental of the bible even the Old and New
Testament.

Tell me who wrote the Psalm,
The Psalm have nothing to do with Jesus, Nos

You are cheating yourself by not allow someone to debate, since you
don't know and don't understand what you write.

I am not antichrist because I don't curse Jesus but Paul is antichrist
and he curse Jesus. I being supporting Jesus but he was only sent to
the lost sheep of Isreal are you consider you, are children of Isreal?

Let debate our understanding about TRUTH
Post by N***@no.spam
Jesus is not even a King
WHOAH there, madam.
This is quite ENOUGH.
Again, you prove your antichrist nature, and unbelief, as well as
ignorance of our Lord, Jesus Christ.
Psa 24:8 Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the
LORD mighty in battle.
Psa 29:10 The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King
forever.
Psa 47:2 For the LORD most high is terrible; he is a great King over
all the earth.
Psa 47:7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with
understanding.
Psa 74:12 For God is my King of old, working salvation in the midst
of the earth.
Psa 89:18 For the LORD is our defense; and the Holy One of Israel is
our king.
Psa 95:3 For the LORD is a great God, and a great King above all
gods.
Psa 98:6 With trumpets and sound of cornet make a joyful noise before
the LORD, the King.
Mal 1:14 But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male,
and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing: for I am a
great King, saith the LORD of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the
heathen.
Luk 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior,
which is Christ the Lord.
This is NOT up for debate.
David Morgan (MAMS)
2007-11-14 09:25:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by arah
Tell me who wrote the Psalm,
Some people believe that about half of them were written by
King David of Judah... that would make them between 800
and 1050 years older than Christ (I think). However, there
is little proof that any of these songs have specific, known
authors... and even less proof as to their accurate age.

Personally, I don't believe there is any existing *proof* of
the true authorship of any short song that is over 3000
years old.

This at least means however, that not only does 'NOspam'
have a completely erroneus concept of the term LORD as
used in Psalms, but the term obviously has *nothing* to do
with Jesus the Christ, who wouldn't be born for another 8 to
10 centuries.

http://www.bibleinterp.com/commentary/McKensie_020301.htm


This (likely false) information is what I gather from research.....

- David wrote 85 Psalms (Vulgate), or 73 (Masoretic)... groups 3-41, 51-57,
108-110, 138-145, and the 86, 101, 103, 122, 124, 131, 133.
- Moses: Psalm 90, the shortness and miseries of the days of man.
- Solomon: Psalms 72 and 127, the King and the family.
- Jeremiah: Psalm 137 of the captivity.
- Zechariah: Psalm 147, reconstruction of Jerusalem.
- Asaph: 12 Psalms, 50 and 73-83.
- The sons of Korah: 11 Psalms, 42-49 and 84-87.
- Heman: Psalm 88, one of the most sorrowful of the Psalms.
- Ethan: The next, Psalm 89, very joyful.
- Haggai: Psalm 112, like Psalm 1, but larger.
- Anonymous: The other 50.
arah
2007-11-14 13:01:02 UTC
Permalink
David Morgan,

Thank you for your info. I learn alot more from you than others.

Do you know why people get confused who is their Creator or Almighty
God and make silly assumption about Almighty God?
Post by David Morgan (MAMS)
Post by arah
Tell me who wrote the Psalm,
Some people believe that about half of them were written by
King David of Judah... that would make them between 800
and 1050 years older than Christ (I think). However, there
is little proof that any of these songs have specific, known
authors... and even less proof as to their accurate age.
Personally, I don't believe there is any existing *proof* of
the true authorship of any short song that is over 3000
years old.
This at least means however, that not only does 'NOspam'
have a completely erroneus concept of the term LORD as
used in Psalms, but the term obviously has *nothing* to do
with Jesus the Christ, who wouldn't be born for another 8 to
10 centuries.
http://www.bibleinterp.com/commentary/McKensie_020301.htm
This (likely false) information is what I gather from research.....
- David wrote 85 Psalms (Vulgate), or 73 (Masoretic)... groups 3-41, 51-57,
108-110, 138-145, and the 86, 101, 103, 122, 124, 131, 133.
- Moses: Psalm 90, the shortness and miseries of the days of man.
- Solomon: Psalms 72 and 127, the King and the family.
- Jeremiah: Psalm 137 of the captivity.
- Zechariah: Psalm 147, reconstruction of Jerusalem.
- Asaph: 12 Psalms, 50 and 73-83.
- The sons of Korah: 11 Psalms, 42-49 and 84-87.
- Heman: Psalm 88, one of the most sorrowful of the Psalms.
- Ethan: The next, Psalm 89, very joyful.
- Haggai: Psalm 112, like Psalm 1, but larger.
- Anonymous: The other 50.
N***@no.spam
2007-11-14 15:35:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by arah
I felt sorry to you Nos
Wow, you are very very confused. my dear
You can't understand the fundamental of the bible even the Old and New
Testament.
Tell me who wrote the Psalm,
The Psalm have nothing to do with Jesus, Nos
You are cheating yourself by not allow someone to debate, since you
don't know and don't understand what you write.
I am not antichrist because I don't curse Jesus but Paul is antichrist
and he curse Jesus. I being supporting Jesus but he was only sent to
the lost sheep of Isreal are you consider you, are children of Isreal?
Let debate our understanding about TRUTH
Don't bother 'feeling sorry' for me. I don't need your pity. I know
the Bible, and what's more, I know Jesus, and recognize HIM alone as
my Savior.

You claim I am 'confused, madam, yet it is yourself who is that.
And you ARE antichrist. You claimed "Jesus is not even a king" which a
bold-faced LIE. It is also blasphemy.
You're not worth my debating time.
cub brave
2007-11-18 14:11:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by N***@no.spam
Post by arah
I felt sorry to you Nos
Wow, you are very very confused. my dear
You can't understand the fundamental of the bible even the Old and New
Testament.
Tell me who wrote the Psalm,
The Psalm have nothing to do with Jesus, Nos
You are cheating yourself by not allow someone to debate, since you
don't know and don't understand what you write.
I am not antichrist because I don't curse Jesus but Paul is antichrist
and he curse Jesus. I being supporting Jesus but he was only sent to
the lost sheep of Isreal are you consider you, are children of Isreal?
Let debate our understanding about TRUTH
Don't bother 'feeling sorry' for me. I don't need your pity. I know
the Bible, and what's more, I know Jesus, and recognize HIM alone as
my Savior.
You claim I am 'confused, madam, yet it is yourself who is that.
And you ARE antichrist. You claimed "Jesus is not even a king" which a
bold-faced LIE. It is also blasphemy.
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But Merle, isn't your "Pope" cuddling up with the infidels over there?

What's the difference between the roman god squad idol that you
worship and this filthy lowdown scumbag swine "arah".


Cub Brave
arah
2007-11-19 04:25:18 UTC
Permalink
Nos

Prove to me, when Jesus ever become a King or rule any country? I know
you don't learn History but you can go search about History of the
World.

Jesus can't even save himself from the Roman who rule at that time.

Jesus preaches to only a few disciples during his life time and Jesus
do not even write anything. The bible was not written by Jesus.

Let pray to the Almighty God that Jesus prayed to.
Post by N***@no.spam
Post by arah
I felt sorry to you Nos
Wow, you are very very confused. my dear
You can't understand the fundamental of the bible even the Old and New
Testament.
Tell me who wrote the Psalm,
The Psalm have nothing to do with Jesus, Nos
You are cheating yourself by not allow someone to debate, since you
don't know and don't understand what you write.
I am not antichrist because I don't curse Jesus but Paul is antichrist
and he curse Jesus. I being supporting Jesus but he was only sent to
the lost sheep of Isreal are you consider you, are children of Isreal?
Let debate our understanding about TRUTH
Don't bother 'feeling sorry' for me. I don't need your pity. I know
the Bible, and what's more, I know Jesus, and recognize HIM alone as
my Savior.
You claim I am 'confused, madam, yet it is yourself who is that.
And you ARE antichrist. You claimed "Jesus is not even a king" which a
bold-faced LIE. It is also blasphemy.
You're not worth my debating time.- Hide quoted text -
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Greg
2007-11-19 09:45:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living. He is MY only KING
and he is EVERY Christians KING and as there over 1 BILLION Christians. NO
king has EVER been worshiped by so many in ALL of History. NO king has EVER
been worshiped over the ENTIRE PLANET except JESUS CHRIST.

Repent of Your LIES AND blasphemies Arah in the interests of your own
salvation.

Muslims missed the first salvation of Christ and will suffer at his second
coming . You dont need to wait to recive Him, he lives now.

Greg






so he do not need to have any wives to expand his
Post by arah
empire.
Do you know who are the wives of Muhammad and who are they?
Cheers
Post by John Fraser
Good evening Raymond;
Post by Raymond
Post by John Fraser
Post by arah
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying
between
two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Peter was awakened by an angel while asleep between two soldiers.
If you're serious about a discussion with Arah, why not talk to
her
Post by arah
Post by John Fraser
Post by Raymond
Post by John Fraser
with
dignity instead of insulting her and threatening her with hell fire?
If
Post by arah
Post by John Fraser
Post by Raymond
Post by John Fraser
that's the best you can do, you have a weak witness.
It takes two to talk with dignity, and when one post in the way she
does, there is no dignity given, be like a murder with a gun that
wants to kill you, trying to talk her/him out of it, then such would
be a mental sickness, a need to kill and all the dignity will do not
good. It would only get a laugh from the one wanting to kill, in this
case wanting to make Christian deny Christ as saviour. As for Peter
he was tried up could not move on his own. Mohammad was lying with
two men, and I do not recall Peter having sex with some 11 year old.
I not sure if he liked boys or not, maybe she can give us a verse from
the Koran that will give some light on that statement.
Cheers,
Raymond
Regarding the dignity, our old friend Mr. Winter used to quote a verse
from 1 Peter which stated that Jesus did not revile when reviled. I do
agree that Arah is here to test the faith of those who profess Christ.
As
Post by arah
Post by John Fraser
she quotes increasing more of the Qu'ran, she makes more clear why Muslims
disregard Jesus and ultimately doom themselves. On that point, we're all in
agreement. I agree that Peter was a bound prisoner at the mercy of sixteen
guards whereas Muhammad was voluntarily between his men. Regarding sex, it
seems that Muhummad could not get enough. As he grew older, he grew
increasingly perverted.
Cheers,
John- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
N***@no.spam
2007-11-19 15:22:42 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:45:06 +1100, "Greg"
Post by Greg
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
^^^^This comment really took the cake, and turned me COMPLETELY OFF
her.
Post by Greg
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living. He is MY only KING
and he is EVERY Christians KING and as there over 1 BILLION Christians. NO
king has EVER been worshiped by so many in ALL of History. NO king has EVER
been worshiped over the ENTIRE PLANET except JESUS CHRIST.
RIGHT ON.
Post by Greg
Repent of Your LIES AND blasphemies Arah in the interests of your own
salvation.
Muslims missed the first salvation of Christ and will suffer at his second
coming . You dont need to wait to recive Him, he lives now.
Greg
Ab SOUL utely.
If Arah would recant her blasphemous comment about Jesus, that would
be an excellent big step in the right direction.
Good grief! The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,
The Savior - and she balks at this?
John Fraser
2007-11-19 16:00:59 UTC
Permalink
Good morning Elaine;
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:45:06 +1100, "Greg"
Post by Greg
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
^^^^This comment really took the cake, and turned me COMPLETELY OFF
her.
Post by Greg
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living. He is MY only KING
and he is EVERY Christians KING and as there over 1 BILLION Christians. NO
king has EVER been worshiped by so many in ALL of History. NO king has EVER
been worshiped over the ENTIRE PLANET except JESUS CHRIST.
RIGHT ON.
Post by Greg
Repent of Your LIES AND blasphemies Arah in the interests of your own
salvation.
Muslims missed the first salvation of Christ and will suffer at his
second
coming . You dont need to wait to recive Him, he lives now.
Greg
Ab SOUL utely.
If Arah would recant her blasphemous comment about Jesus, that would
be an excellent big step in the right direction.
Good grief! The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,
The Savior - and she balks at this?
She balks at it because while Islam considers the birth of Jesus as a
miracle and undeniably an unequalled prophet greater than Muhammad, the
Qu'ran only describes him as just another prophet. As for his miraculous
birth, it has no explanation for that either. The Qu'ran attempts to
include biblical stories, but revises them in such a way that one is left
contemplating if the Qu'ran and Bible are describing the same event.

Cheers,
John
N***@no.spam
2007-11-19 16:17:19 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:00:59 -0400, "John Fraser"
Post by John Fraser
Good morning Elaine;
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:45:06 +1100, "Greg"
Post by Greg
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
^^^^This comment really took the cake, and turned me COMPLETELY OFF
her.
Post by Greg
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living. He is MY only KING
and he is EVERY Christians KING and as there over 1 BILLION Christians. NO
king has EVER been worshiped by so many in ALL of History. NO king has EVER
been worshiped over the ENTIRE PLANET except JESUS CHRIST.
RIGHT ON.
Post by Greg
Repent of Your LIES AND blasphemies Arah in the interests of your own
salvation.
Muslims missed the first salvation of Christ and will suffer at his
second
coming . You dont need to wait to recive Him, he lives now.
Greg
Ab SOUL utely.
If Arah would recant her blasphemous comment about Jesus, that would
be an excellent big step in the right direction.
Good grief! The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,
The Savior - and she balks at this?
She balks at it because while Islam considers the birth of Jesus as a
miracle and undeniably an unequalled prophet greater than Muhammad, the
Qu'ran only describes him as just another prophet. As for his miraculous
birth, it has no explanation for that either. The Qu'ran attempts to
include biblical stories, but revises them in such a way that one is left
contemplating if the Qu'ran and Bible are describing the same event.
Cheers,
John
Good morning, John!
Yes, and no doubt she is not allowed to think of God as being anyone
other than her mohammed. The brainwashing tactics some religions use
is so powerful, unfortunately, that she might be too far goner. But I
hope not.

Have a good day :o)
arah
2007-11-19 16:34:27 UTC
Permalink
NOs, again you are confused.

Muhammad is a prophet just like Jesus, Abraham and Moses.

We Muslim does not pray to Muhammad but we pray to Almighty God, the
Father, the One that Jesus prayed to.

That what Jesus teaches the Children of Israel and Muhammad teaches to
all mankind
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:00:59 -0400, "John Fraser"
Post by John Fraser
Good morning Elaine;
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:45:06 +1100, "Greg"
Post by Greg
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
^^^^This comment really took the cake, and turned me COMPLETELY OFF
her.
Post by Greg
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living. He is MY only KING
and he is EVERY Christians KING and as there over 1 BILLION Christians. NO
king has EVER been worshiped by so many in ALL of History. NO king has EVER
been worshiped over the ENTIRE PLANET except JESUS CHRIST.
RIGHT ON.
Post by Greg
Repent of Your LIES AND blasphemies Arah in the interests of your own
salvation.
Muslims missed the first salvation of Christ and will suffer at his
second
coming . You dont need to wait to recive Him, he lives now.
Greg
Ab SOUL utely.
If Arah would recant her blasphemous comment about Jesus, that would
be an excellent big step in the right direction.
Good grief! The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,
The Savior - and she balks at this?
She balks at it because while Islam considers the birth of Jesus as a
miracle and undeniably an unequalled prophet greater than Muhammad, the
Qu'ran only describes him as just another prophet. As for his miraculous
birth, it has no explanation for that either. The Qu'ran attempts to
include biblical stories, but revises them in such a way that one is left
contemplating if the Qu'ran and Bible are describing the same event.
Cheers,
John
Good morning, John!
Yes, and no doubt she is not allowed to think of God as being anyone
other than her mohammed. The brainwashing tactics some religions use
is so powerful, unfortunately, that she might be too far goner. But I
hope not.
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j***@hotmail.com
2007-11-20 20:48:10 UTC
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Post by arah
NOs, again you are confused.
Muhammad is a prophet just like Jesus, Abraham and Moses.
Muhammad would be privileged just to wash Jesus' (God's) feet.
Post by arah
We Muslim does not pray to Muhammad but we pray to Almighty God, the
Father, the One that Jesus prayed to.
No, you DO NOT pray to the one and true only God Jesus prayed to!
Post by arah
That what Jesus teaches the Children of Israel and Muhammad teaches to
all mankind
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:00:59 -0400, "John Fraser"
Post by John Fraser
Good morning Elaine;
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:45:06 +1100, "Greg"
Post by Greg
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
^^^^This comment really took the cake, and turned me COMPLETELY OFF
her.
Post by Greg
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living. He is MY only KING
and he is EVERY Christians KING and as there over 1 BILLION Christians. NO
king has EVER been worshiped by so many in ALL of History. NO king has EVER
been worshiped over the ENTIRE PLANET except JESUS CHRIST.
RIGHT ON.
Post by Greg
Repent of Your LIES AND blasphemies Arah in the interests of your own
salvation.
Muslims missed the first salvation of Christ and will suffer at his
second
coming . You dont need to wait to recive Him, he lives now.
Greg
Ab SOUL utely.
If Arah would recant her blasphemous comment about Jesus, that would
be an excellent big step in the right direction.
Good grief! The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,
The Savior - and she balks at this?
She balks at it because while Islam considers the birth of Jesus as a
miracle and undeniably an unequalled prophet greater than Muhammad, the
Qu'ran only describes him as just another prophet. As for his miraculous
birth, it has no explanation for that either. The Qu'ran attempts to
include biblical stories, but revises them in such a way that one is left
contemplating if the Qu'ran and Bible are describing the same event.
Cheers,
John
Good morning, John!
Yes, and no doubt she is not allowed to think of God as being anyone
other than her mohammed. The brainwashing tactics some religions use
is so powerful, unfortunately, that she might be too far goner. But I
hope not.
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2007-11-19 17:31:43 UTC
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Good afternoon Elaine;
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:00:59 -0400, "John Fraser"
Post by John Fraser
Good morning Elaine;
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:45:06 +1100, "Greg"
Post by Greg
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
^^^^This comment really took the cake, and turned me COMPLETELY OFF
her.
Post by Greg
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living. He is MY only KING
and he is EVERY Christians KING and as there over 1 BILLION Christians. NO
king has EVER been worshiped by so many in ALL of History. NO king has EVER
been worshiped over the ENTIRE PLANET except JESUS CHRIST.
RIGHT ON.
Post by Greg
Repent of Your LIES AND blasphemies Arah in the interests of your own
salvation.
Muslims missed the first salvation of Christ and will suffer at his
second
coming . You dont need to wait to recive Him, he lives now.
Greg
Ab SOUL utely.
If Arah would recant her blasphemous comment about Jesus, that would
be an excellent big step in the right direction.
Good grief! The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,
The Savior - and she balks at this?
She balks at it because while Islam considers the birth of Jesus as a
miracle and undeniably an unequalled prophet greater than Muhammad, the
Qu'ran only describes him as just another prophet. As for his miraculous
birth, it has no explanation for that either. The Qu'ran attempts to
include biblical stories, but revises them in such a way that one is left
contemplating if the Qu'ran and Bible are describing the same event.
Cheers,
John
Good morning, John!
Yes, and no doubt she is not allowed to think of God as being anyone
other than her mohammed. The brainwashing tactics some religions use
is so powerful, unfortunately, that she might be too far goner. But I
hope not.
Have a good day :o)
I suspect a greater issue which separates Christianity from Islam is
Muslims consider themselves as slaves before Allah whereas Christians
consider themselves children before God. The latter opens a door for a
meaningful personal relationship whereas the former is more of a functional
relationship.

Cheers,
John
N***@no.spam
2007-11-19 20:54:42 UTC
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:31:43 -0400, "John Fraser"
Post by John Fraser
I suspect a greater issue which separates Christianity from Islam is
Muslims consider themselves as slaves before Allah whereas Christians
consider themselves children before God. The latter opens a door for a
meaningful personal relationship whereas the former is more of a functional
relationship.
Cheers,
John
Worth a shot, I reckon!! :o)
u***@gmail.com
2007-11-27 03:52:12 UTC
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The fundamental different between Islam and Christian,

Islam pray and ask for help to the Creator of the Universe but
Christian pray and ask for help to a creation ie Jesus Christ
Post by John Fraser
Good afternoon Elaine;
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:00:59 -0400, "John Fraser"
Post by John Fraser
Good morning Elaine;
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:45:06 +1100, "Greg"
Post by Greg
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
^^^^This comment really took the cake, and turned me COMPLETELY OFF
her.
Post by Greg
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living. He is MY only KING
and he is EVERY Christians KING and as there over 1 BILLION Christians. NO
king has EVER been worshiped by so many in ALL of History. NO king has EVER
been worshiped over the ENTIRE PLANET except JESUS CHRIST.
RIGHT ON.
Post by Greg
Repent of Your LIES AND blasphemies Arah in the interests of your own
salvation.
Muslims missed the first salvation of Christ and will suffer at his
second
coming . You dont need to wait to recive Him, he lives now.
Greg
Ab SOUL utely.
If Arah would recant her blasphemous comment about Jesus, that would
be an excellent big step in the right direction.
Good grief! The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,
The Savior - and she balks at this?
She balks at it because while Islam considers the birth of Jesus as a
miracle and undeniably an unequalled prophet greater than Muhammad, the
Qu'ran only describes him as just another prophet. As for his miraculous
birth, it has no explanation for that either. The Qu'ran attempts to
include biblical stories, but revises them in such a way that one is left
contemplating if the Qu'ran and Bible are describing the same event.
Cheers,
John
Good morning, John!
Yes, and no doubt she is not allowed to think of God as being anyone
other than her mohammed. The brainwashing tactics some religions use
is so powerful, unfortunately, that she might be too far goner. But I
hope not.
Have a good day :o)
I suspect a greater issue which separates Christianity from Islam is
Muslims consider themselves as slaves before Allah whereas Christians
consider themselves children before God. The latter opens a door for a
meaningful personal relationship whereas the former is more of a functional
relationship.
Cheers,
John
David Morgan (MAMS)
2007-11-27 05:01:28 UTC
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Post by u***@gmail.com
The fundamental different between Islam and Christian,
Islam pray and ask for help to the Creator of the Universe but
Christian pray and ask for help to a creation ie Jesus Christ
This is not true for all Christians. Many of them understand that
the story of Jesus was simply meant to enhance the concept
of Deism... a belief in a single Creator, a single God.
arah
2007-11-28 14:40:04 UTC
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My dear David Morgan, do you believe in unity of Almighty God, the
creator?

This means you agree with the concept of Almighty God taught by
Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

I pray that we will meet each other in heaven.

Cheers
Post by David Morgan (MAMS)
Post by u***@gmail.com
The fundamental different between Islam and Christian,
Islam pray and ask for help to the Creator of the Universe but
Christian pray and ask for help to a creation ie Jesus Christ
This is not true for all Christians. Many of them understand that
the story of Jesus was simply meant to enhance the concept
of Deism... a belief in a single Creator, a single God.
David Morgan (MAMS)
2007-12-04 07:10:30 UTC
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Post by arah
My dear David Morgan, do you believe in unity of Almighty God, the
creator?
If there is a God, or Creator, for humans... there is only one such entity.
Post by arah
This means you agree with the concept of Almighty God taught by
Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.
These teachers spoke of only _ONE_ "God" over all humankind.
I would agree that if there is indeed a God, there is but one.
Post by arah
I pray that we will meet each other in heaven.
We have met in print, and we are there now... so your prayer is
mostly answered already.
Post by arah
Cheers
... And to you.
arah
2007-11-19 16:30:47 UTC
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NOs wrote

"The Bible describes Him (Jesus) as King of Kings, Lord of Lords, "

This prove that you don't understand what is written in your bible.

If Jesus being King of King, he will kill the Roman and the Jews who
dislike his teaching, however he is so powerless that he can't save
himself and his disciples from the Roman.

NOs you get yourself confused. Go and study the Gospel of Matthew and
Luke
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:45:06 +1100, "Greg"
Post by Greg
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
^^^^This comment really took the cake, and turned me COMPLETELY OFF
her.
Post by Greg
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living. He is MY only KING
and he is EVERY Christians KING and as there over 1 BILLION Christians. NO
king has EVER been worshiped by so many in ALL of History. NO king has EVER
been worshiped over the ENTIRE PLANET except JESUS CHRIST.
RIGHT ON.
Post by Greg
Repent of Your LIES AND blasphemies Arah in the interests of your own
salvation.
Muslims missed the first salvation of Christ and will suffer at his second
coming . You dont need to wait to recive Him, he lives now.
Greg
Ab SOUL utely.
If Arah would recant her blasphemous comment about Jesus, that would
be an excellent big step in the right direction.
Good grief! The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,
The Savior - and she balks at this?
arah
2007-12-05 06:54:44 UTC
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NOs wrote:

"The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,..."

Sorry Jesus mentioned otherwise

"I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My
judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of
Him who sent Me. 31"If I alone bear witness of Myself, My testimony is
not true. 32"There is another who bears witness of Me, and I know that
the testimony which He bears of Me is true," (John 5:30-32, NASB).

If Jesus can even save himself, you must be very stupid to get someone
who can't even help himself to help you.

Jesus Is Mocked
27(AD)Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into (AE)the
Praetorium and gathered the whole Roman (AF)cohort around Him.
28They stripped Him and (AG)put a scarlet robe on Him.

29(AH)And after twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on
His head, and a reed in His right hand; and they knelt down before Him
and mocked Him, saying, "(AI)Hail, King of the Jews!"

30(AJ)They spat on Him, and took the reed and began to beat Him on
the head.

31(AK)After they had mocked Him, they took the scarlet robe off Him
and put His own garments back on Him, and led Him away to crucify
Him.

32(AL)As they were coming out, they found a man of (AM)Cyrene named
Simon, whom they pressed into service to bear His cross.

The Crucifixion
33(AN)And when they came to a place called (AO)Golgotha, which means
Place of a Skull,
34(AP)they gave Him (AQ)wine to drink mixed with gall; and after
tasting it, He was unwilling to drink.

35And when they had crucified Him, (AR)they divided up His garments
among themselves by casting lots.

36And sitting down, they began to (AS)keep watch over Him there.

37And above His head they put up the charge against Him which read,
"(AT)THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS."

38At that time two robbers were crucified with Him, one on the right
and one on the left.

39And those passing by were hurling abuse at Him, (AU)wagging their
heads

40and saying, "(AV)You who are going to destroy the temple and
rebuild it in three days, save Yourself! (AW)If You are the Son of
God, come down from the cross."

41In the same way the chief priests also, along with the scribes and
elders, were mocking Him and saying,

42"(AX)He saved others; He cannot save Himself (AY)He is the King of
Israel; let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe in
Him.

43"(AZ)HE TRUSTS IN GOD; LET GOD RESCUE Him now, IF HE DELIGHTS IN
HIM; for He said, 'I am the Son of God.'"

44(BA)The robbers who had been crucified with Him were also insulting
Him with the same words.

45(BB)Now from the [a]sixth hour darkness fell upon all the land
until the [b]ninth hour.

46About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying,
"(BC)ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?" that is, "MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE
YOU FORSAKEN ME?"

Sorry NOs you fail to convince me and I know your is not conviced
either by bible

Good luck
Post by N***@no.spam
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:45:06 +1100, "Greg"
Post by Greg
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
^^^^This comment really took the cake, and turned me COMPLETELY OFF
her.
Post by Greg
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living. He is MY only KING
and he is EVERY Christians KING and as there over 1 BILLION Christians. NO
king has EVER been worshiped by so many in ALL of History. NO king has EVER
been worshiped over the ENTIRE PLANET except JESUS CHRIST.
RIGHT ON.
Post by Greg
Repent of Your LIES AND blasphemies Arah in the interests of your own
salvation.
Muslims missed the first salvation of Christ and will suffer at his second
coming . You dont need to wait to recive Him, he lives now.
Greg
Ab SOUL utely.
If Arah would recant her blasphemous comment about Jesus, that would
be an excellent big step in the right direction.
Good grief! The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,
The Savior - and she balks at this?
Raymond
2007-12-05 17:28:43 UTC
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Post by arah
"The Bible describes Him as King of Kings, Lord of Lords,..."
Sorry Jesus mentioned otherwise
I am sorry you are so ignorant of what you claim as the Bible does say
Jesus is what you deny here. Rev 19:15-16
15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should
strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron.
He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of
Almighty God. 16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name
written:

KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. NKJV

1 Tim 6:14-16
14 that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our
Lord Jesus Christ's appearing, 15 which He will manifest in His own
time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and
Lord of lords, 16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in
unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be
honor and everlasting power. Amen. NKJV

No need to go on, since you premise is false and a lie what else you
had to say, would be built on such a false statement and like the
Koran not worth the time to read it, in matters like this.

David Morgan (MAMS)
2007-11-20 23:01:36 UTC
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Post by Greg
Post by arah
Why don't you complain how many wives that a King has,
God made the Law , men chose to IGNORE it and take more than one wife.
Post by arah
unluckly Jesus is not even a King
Correct... according to ALL HISTORY referenced in the Bible, Jesus was a carpenter.
Post by Greg
One would have to almost BLIND to not see that Jesus Christ is The Greatest
KING Living.
Jesus, the Christ, has been dead for almost 2000 years.
Post by Greg
He is MY only KING
What ever......
David Morgan (MAMS)
2007-11-12 19:10:36 UTC
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Post by John Fraser
Post by Greg
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Peter was awakened by an angel while asleep between two soldiers.
If you're serious about a discussion with Arah, why not talk to her with
dignity instead of insulting her and threatening her with hell fire? If
that's the best you can do, you have a weak witness.
There are a number of people here who have a similar 'issue'.
Raymond
2007-11-12 14:58:28 UTC
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Post by Greg
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest
them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.
Sick stuff islam
Greg
You made a good point,but the blind and dumb do not want to know they
are wrong and will reject the truth, no matter what is proven to
them. Evil wants evil and darkness seeks darkness.
arah
2007-11-12 17:29:52 UTC
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Raymond, you talking about yourself, Greg and Nos
...but the blind and dumb do not want to know they
are wrong and will reject the truth, no matter what is proven to
them. Evil wants evil and darkness seeks darkness
I don't think you have an answer for the following

John 10:30 (New International Version)

30I and the Father are one."

If John 10:30 is true why must Jesus cried just before he was
cruzified and the bible cursed Jesus in Galatians?

Matthew 27:46 (New International Version)

46About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi,
[a] lama sabachthani?"-which means, "My God, my God, why have you
forsaken me?"[b]

You worship Jesus as God but he can't even able to savep himself from
being cruzified by the Roman eventhough he was aware what will happen.

Matthew 26:1-2

Matthew 26

1When Jesus had finished saying all these things, he said to his
disciples, 2"As you know, the Passover is two days away-and the Son of
Man will be handed over to be crucified."

However when I read the Galatian 3:13 what a suprised!!!!! Jesus was
being CURSED????

Galatians 3:13 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)


13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a
curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a
tree:

Why the bible cursed their own God?
Post by Greg
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest
them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.
Sick stuff islam
Greg
You made a good point,but the blind and dumb do not want to know they
are wrong and will reject the truth, no matter what is proven to
them. Evil wants evil and darkness seeks darkness.- Hide quoted text -
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cub brave
2007-11-13 02:37:35 UTC
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Post by Raymond
Post by Greg
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two
men.
The above simply shows mohammed was homosexual and history shows he was
pedophile with an 11 year old wife.
Being homosexual and a pedophile explains why muslims are promised
delightsome young boys in heaven as a reward.
Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest
them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.
Sick stuff islam
Greg
You made a good point,but the blind and dumb do not want to know they
are wrong and will reject the truth, no matter what is proven to
them. Evil wants evil and darkness seeks darkness.- Hide quoted text -
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Well, here we have the same Knapp that calls on his "allah" whenever
he needs something.


You're not fooling us, fool.


cub brave
Anonymous Remailer (austria)
2007-11-14 07:43:53 UTC
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Post by N***@no.spam
Jesus is not even a King
WHOAH there, madam.
This is quite ENOUGH.
No, it is true. There never was a king named Jesus. Not one. Your
religion is FAKE.
Post by N***@no.spam
Again, you prove your antichrist nature, and unbelief, as well as
ignorance of our Lord, Jesus Christ.
What ignorance? There was no king named Jesus. What was his kingdom?
Where was his army?
The Bible is a collection of stupid bronze-age Hebrew scriptures that
idiots who don't read Hebrew have tacked onto stupid Zoroastrian folk
beliefs.

Jesus is FAKE. His mother was a WHORE. Your holy ghost was a Roman
soldier on shore leave.

Your bible quotes prove NOTHING. Fuck Jesus. Fuck Mary. Fuck the holy
ghost. And fuck YOU.
--
"Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum." - Lucretius
BAM
2007-11-14 12:48:06 UTC
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He was lying between two men? Gee, didn't know Muhammed went both ways.

Aside from that, it just sounds like a dopey and infantile story. Like the
gatekeeper in heaven asking "who's there?". Ummm......Avon lady.

BAM
Post by arah
The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between
sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying
between two men. A golden tray full of wisdom and belief was brought
to me and my body was cut open from the throat to the lower part of
the abdomen and then my abdomen was washed with Zam-zam water and (my
heart was) filled with wisdom and belief. Al-Buraq, a white animal,
smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me and I
set out with Gabriel.
When I reached the nearest heaven. Gabriel said to the heaven gate-
keeper, 'Open the gate.' The gatekeeper asked, 'Who is it?' He said,
'Gabriel.' The gate-keeper,' Who is accompanying you?' Gabriel said,
'Muhammad.' The gate-keeper said, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel said,
'Yes.' Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his
is!' Then I met Adam and greeted him and he said, 'You are welcomed O
son and a Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the second heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?'
Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was said, 'Who is with you?' He said,
'Muhammad' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' He said, 'Yes.' It
was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!" Then I met
Jesus and Yahya (John) who said, 'You are welcomed, O brother and a
Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the third heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?'
Gabriel said, 'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is with you? Gabriel said,
'Muhammad.' It was asked, 'Has he been sent for?' 'Yes,' said Gabriel.
'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' (The Prophet added:).
There I met Joseph and greeted him, and he replied, 'You are welcomed,
O brother and a Prophet!'
Then we ascended to the 4th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met Idris
and greeted him. He said, 'You are welcomed O brother and Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the 5th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in previous heavens. there I met and greeted
Aaron who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and a Prophet".
Then we ascended to the 6th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and
greeted Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.'
When I proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was
weeping, he said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after
me will enter Paradise in greater number than my followers.'
Then we ascended to the seventh heaven and again the same questions
and answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and
greeted Abraham who said, 'You are welcomed o son and a Prophet.' Then
I was shown Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur (i.e. Allah's House). I asked Gabriel
about it and he said, This is Al Bait-ul-Ma'mur where 70,000 angels
perform prayers daily and when they leave they never return to it (but
always a fresh batch comes into it daily).' Then I was shown Sidrat-ul-
Muntaha (i.e. a tree in the seventh heaven) and I saw its Nabk fruits
which resembled the clay jugs of Hajr (i.e. a town in Arabia), and its
leaves were like the ears of elephants, and four rivers originated at
its root, two of them were apparent and two were hidden. I asked
Gabriel about those rivers and he said, 'The two hidden rivers are in
Paradise, and the apparent ones are the Nile and the Euphrates.'
Then fifty prayers were enjoined on me. I descended till I met Moses
who asked me, 'What have you done?' I said, 'Fifty prayers have been
enjoined on me.' He said, 'I know the people better than you, because
I had the hardest experience to bring Bani Israel to obedience. Your
followers cannot put up with such obligation. So, return to your Lord
and request Him (to reduce the number of prayers.' I returned and
requested Allah (for reduction) and He made it forty. I returned and
(met Moses) and had a similar discussion, and then returned again to
Allah for reduction and He made it thirty, then twenty, then ten, and
then I came to Moses who repeated the same advice. Ultimately Allah
reduced it to five. When I came to Moses again, he said, 'What have
you done?' I said, 'Allah has made it five only.' He repeated the same
advice but I said that I surrendered (to Allah's Final Order)'"
Allah's Apostle was addressed by Allah, "I have decreed My Obligation
and have reduced the burden on My slaves, and I shall reward a single
good deed as if it were ten good deeds."
The is only One Almighty God, the Creator, the God of All Mankind, God
of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad
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